On Connection

On Connection

By Conversant

Hosted by a Millennial, Gen-Xer, & a Baby Boomer, On Connection takes on topics relating to organizational life, leadership, & how our quality of connection influences our ability to perform & feel personally fulfilled at work. Human connection is still a largely underutilized asset in organizations, & yet we know it is a critical leverage point for achieving results. Improving our connections means honoring & valuing difference, so along with our generational differences we will be seeking out various perspectives on topics related to life at work so we can be smarter & stronger together.
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Introduction | The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration

On ConnectionJun 04, 2025
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Law #6: The Law of Inclusion | The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration

Law #6: The Law of Inclusion | The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration

Law #6: Inclusion - "Differences + Trust = Brilliance"Inclusion isn't a side initiative - it's a leadership skill that drives performance Collaboration requires not only navigating differences across a team but leveraging them in ways that drive valuable results and fuel future successes. Leaders often express fatigue around inclusion efforts that feel bureaucratic or disconnected from business outcomes, and those that occur as performative (e.g. asking for input without real power-sharing) rather than generative (e.g. co-creating strategy, surfacing dissent, integrating frontline insight into decision-making). Teams that can engage multiple lenses, lived experiences, and cognitive styles make better decisions, faster. This inclusion of various perspectives is especially important when navigating ambiguity or complexity. Harnessing the value of difference requires stewarding an environment of trust, unlocking the full intelligence of a system. Insights from the episode:

  • Over-inclusion and under-inclusion both erode clarity, speed, and trust
  • Valuable inclusion requires clarity of purpose and a high-quality of listening and conversation
  • Leaders who include wisely unlock creativity, commitment, and shared ownership


Resources mentioned in the episode:

⁠Overview of the 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration⁠⁠⁠⁠: Use this as a cheat sheet as you follow along with the series or practice the principles with your team

Decision Criteria Chart: Use this chart to map out criteria that can help guide upcoming decision-making conversations


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Jul 16, 202529:47
Law #5: The Law of Presence | The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration
Jul 09, 202530:35
Law #4: The Law of Authenticity | The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration

Law #4: The Law of Authenticity | The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration

Law #4: Authenticity - "Pivot to purpose in the face of fear, threat & disappointment"Life, and life at work, bring plenty of opportunities for disruption, especially in the context of our relationships with others. A collaborative effort is bound to surface misalignments, differences of opinion, and competing priorities. Circumstances themselves may knock our plans off course, sending a team into a space of anxiety, fear, and protection. Having a skillset for recovering a sense of purpose and generating focus and alignment where it's missing, even in challenging times, is a critically important leadership skill. In this episode we discuss the 4th Law of Authenticity. Authenticity - an art of listening for shared purpose and cultivating connection - is foundational to high-performance collaboration.Insights from the episode:

  • Emotional agility is a core skill for successful leaders, collaborators, and high-performers

⁠Overview of the 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration⁠⁠: Use this as a cheat sheet as you follow along with the series or practice the principles with your team

⁠Overview of the Conversation Meter⁠: An essential summary for quick reference on how to utilize the tool The Bioreactive Styles AssessmentWATCH this episode⁠⁠ on YouTube

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Jul 02, 202528:49
Law #3: The Law of Connection | The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration

Law #3: The Law of Connection | The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration

Law #3: The Law of Connection - "The conversations are the work."In today’s complex, fast-moving organizations, leaders are under constant pressure to drive results, manage competing priorities, and keep teams aligned—often across functions, locations, and time zones.This episode of The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration introduces The Law of Connection, and core principles of leadership that are often overlooked: The quality of your team’s conversations determines the quality of your collaboration—and the results you’re able to achieve.We discuss:

  • Why connection and conversation have a direct impact on efficiency, effectiveness, and supervision costs
  • How to care for the quality of our conversations (hint: this has more to do with how well you listen than what you say)
  • How to care for the timing of your conversations - "What conversation is it time for now?"
  • The importance of developing the ability to notice when things are off track, and the skills that help you restore alignment and trust

Resources mentioned in the episode:

Overview of the 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration⁠: Use this as a cheat sheet as you follow along with the series or practice the principles with your team

Overview of the Conversation Meter: An essential summary for quick reference on how to utilize the tool

Moving Up the Meter: A handout that guides focus if looking to increase the quality of your conversations and your listening


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Jun 25, 202528:05
Law #2: The Law of Listening | The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration

Law #2: The Law of Listening | The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration

Jun 18, 202528:11
Law #1: The Law of Teamwork | The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration

Law #1: The Law of Teamwork | The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration

Episode 1: The Law of Teamwork — "The Source of Teamwork is a Common Future"What makes a group of people into a team?Not just shared tasks—but a shared future.In this opening episode of The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration, we explore what it takes to cultivate a team that's grounded in shared purpose, common values, and commitments to measurable goals. We also discuss three factors contributing to the strength of your team and their ability to collaborate effectively and efficiently - community, contribution, and choice. Caring for these elements set the foundation for addressing challenges relating to:

  • Generating shared understanding of goals
  • Building trust and psychological safety
  • Clear roles, communication, and conflict norms
  • Accountability and commitment

Questions to explore with your team:🔹 Given our shared future, where do we need to collaborate? Where don't we have to collaborate?🔹 What is or could be important to each of us personally if we achieve our goals?🔹 With whom must each of us interact to make that happen?🔹 Who benefits if we succeed?🔔 Subscribe to stay in the loop as new episodes drop📤 Share this video with fellow leaders or your team🎧 Tune in weekly for practical insights that will shift the way you leadResources mentioned in the episode: Overview of the 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration: Use this as a cheat sheet as you follow along with the series or practice the principles with your team

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Jun 11, 202532:33
Introduction | The 10 Laws of High-Performance Collaboration
Jun 04, 202524:11
Driving Change & Systemic Prosperity through Conscious Leadership

Driving Change & Systemic Prosperity through Conscious Leadership

Leaders across industries and geographies are having to learn what it takes to drive progress in dynamic and unpredictable times. In this episode of On Connection, we engage with Ryo Penna, an entrepreneur, facilitator, and "practical philosopher", to explore how conscious leadership can drive systemic prosperity.

Drawing from his global experiences and recent research at University College London, Ryo delves into the importance of interpersonal skills, conscious collaboration, and effective listening in fostering systemic change. Learn how these principles can empower leaders to navigate today's complex and dynamic environments. Join us for an insightful discussion on leadership and the transformative power of connection.


About Ryo Penna

Ryo is a combination of entrepreneur and practical philosopher, especially fond of Socrates and Rumi. As challenging as it may sound, he is passionate about illuminating love, compassion, and empathy as skills that are core to any successful business. He likes to design good questions as a powerful tool of transformation. You can watch his TEDx Talk about “The Wisdom of Questions” (English subtitles) on YouTube.

Ryo has worked across geographies with corporations such as Unilever, DHL, Motorola, billion-dollar startups, and Amazon Rainforest communities. He co-founded and served as CEO of Grupo Anga&Din4mo, a holding of remote and self-managed companies that vary from consultancies to investing firms. He has spent most of his time working as CEO of Tribo, a consulting firm for organizational culture and conscious leadership. Grupo Anga&Din4mo is also the official publisher of MIT Sloan Review Brazil. Ryo also serves as advisor at Brasil Júnior (Brazil’s biggest university entrepreneurs network, where he also served as president back in college, leading more than 20k students) and Conscious Capitalism Brazil.


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Feb 19, 202552:21
 Transformative Leadership: Love, Fire, and Community Resilience, with Lenya Quinn-Davidson

Transformative Leadership: Love, Fire, and Community Resilience, with Lenya Quinn-Davidson

In this episode of On Connection, we sit down with Lenya Quinn-Davidson, Fire Network Director at the University of California Agriculture and Natural Resources. Lenya shares her insights on the critical role of love and connection in leadership, especially in the context of fire management and community resilience. Her work on beneficial fire practices, community engagement, and her leadership in the Women in Fire Training Exchange program offer valuable lessons on how purpose-driven leadership can address complex challenges.


You can learn more about Lenya and her work below:


Lenya Quinn-Davidson Bio

Lenya Quinn-Davidson is the Fire Network Director for the University of California Agriculture and Natural Resources, where she leads a statewide team working on various facets of community and landscape resiliency. Over the last 15 years, Lenya’s work has focused in large part on the human connection with fire, building capacity and support for beneficial fire. Lenya has worked at various scales, including locally with private landowners and community members; at the state level, where she collaborates on policy, research, and training; and nationally/internationally, through her leadership on the Women-in-Fire Training Exchange (WTREX) Program. 


Jan 29, 202557:20
Work & Well-being: Creating the conditions for people & organizations to thrive

Work & Well-being: Creating the conditions for people & organizations to thrive

Balancing work and well-being is a constant challenge for many, particularly for leaders who are managing both people and organizational commitments. Well-being easily slips down the priority list when pressing accountabilities come up, and it can feel like a “nice-to-have” rather than a necessity. However, well-being is a critical foundation for productivity, engagement, collaboration, and leadership, and research increasingly shows that when this foundation is lacking, it affects the overall health of the business.

In today’s episode, Emma Rose is joined by Conversant consultant and partner Kell Delaney and guest Eleanor Allen. Eleanor is CEO of Catapult for Change, focusing on empowering other leaders and organizations to overcome challenges and ignite innovative ideas that enable success. Having worked across the corporate and nonprofit sectors she brings a practical but whole-hearted perspective to the question of what it takes for businesses and people to thrive. She has recently been working to bring science-based tools to organizations that support workplace experience and peak performance.

You can connect with Eleanor and learn more about her work below.

Eleanor Allen is a visionary catalyst for positive change, dedicated to enhancing the quality of life for both people and the planet. As a humanist, environmentalist, and versatile force in corporate and nonprofit sectors, she brings a wealth of experience as a CEO, business leader, board member, technical expert, consultant, and professional engineer. Eleanor's impressive career includes leadership roles in various organizations such as CEO of B Lab Global and Water For People, Global Water Leader at Arcadis, and Latin America Water Leader at CH2M (now Jacobs). Her contributions to the engineering profession led to her induction into the National Academy of Engineering in 2020.

Through her executive coaching and consulting business, Catapult For Change, Eleanor now focuses on empowering other leaders and organizations to overcome challenges and ignite innovative ideas that enable success. As a Certified Coach and registered Professional Engineer with global experience in over 50 countries, Eleanor is passionate about championing workplace well-being, organizational flourishing, and justice, equity, diversity, and inclusion (JEDI) principles.

Dec 18, 202401:03:01
An Authentic Approach to Diversity & Inclusion, with Pedro Zannoni

An Authentic Approach to Diversity & Inclusion, with Pedro Zannoni

In this episode of On Connection, host Robin Anselmi interviews Pedro Zannoni, CEO of Lacoste Latin America. With a rich background in the sporting and fashion goods industries, Pedro has successfully grown global brands in new regions and tackled various leadership challenges. As an ambassador for Diversity and Inclusion at Lacoste, Pedro shares valuable insights on elevating women's leadership and why it matters to have a truly authentic approach to the work of inclusion.

Learn more about Pedro through his bio and the links included below:

An executive with over 23 years of experience in multinational companies in the sports and fashion industries, Pedro has expertise in sales and brand building. He takes pride in forming and leading high-performance teams and has held leadership positions at companies such as Wilson, PUMA, adidas, Reebok, ASICS, and is currently the CEO of Lacoste Latin America. In this role, he is responsible for leading the strategic direction and operations of one of the most iconic and prestigious brands in the world.

Before starting his corporate career, Pedro was a professional tennis player and coach. During this time, he won several national and international titles in various categories, including South American and World Champion titles in 1993, and competed in Grand Slam tournaments at Roland Garros and Wimbledon.

He holds a degree in Law, a postgraduate degree in Business Administration, a specialization in General Management from Wharton - University of Pennsylvania, and certification as a Corporate Governance Board Member from IBGC.

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Dec 04, 202446:28
Leading Without Authority: Strategies for Directing Action & Influencing Others
Nov 14, 202455:23
Talking Strategy: How to Have Effective Strategic Planning & Budget Conversations
Oct 31, 202451:37
The Emerging Leader's Playbook: Navigating Your Leadership Journey
Oct 16, 202459:56
Why Gather (And How to Do It Well)
Sep 25, 202455:49
Challenges of Leadership: Enterprise Leadership
Sep 04, 202401:00:11
Take the Waste Out of Work
Aug 21, 202454:19
Radical Partnership with Mike Tetreault of The Nature Conservancy
Aug 07, 202458:36
Navigating Change & Uncertainty

Navigating Change & Uncertainty

Change and uncertainty are unavoidable challenges for organizations and leaders to lean into today. Whether those changes and shifting circumstances are externally driven or strategic choices, they can be disruptive and dislocating. They also offer powerful opportunities for generating connection, resilience, and value-producing cultures.

Mickey and Robin join Emma Rose to share what they've observed can help or hurt your ability to navigate times of change and uncertainty, including practical and proactive focuses for your leadership.






May 16, 202401:00:55
The Key to Turning Differences into Value: Practicing Accuracy
Apr 19, 202452:21
Resolving Conflict
Apr 04, 202401:05:15
Challenges of Leadership: Practicing Emotional Leadership

Challenges of Leadership: Practicing Emotional Leadership

Leading others has its challenges, and for the most senior leaders of organizations there are some challenges that weigh heavily.

What gets elevated to senior leadership isn't the easy stuff. It's often the complex, messy, challenging things that couldn't be resolved by others. Those leaders, however, are just human beings - people that have personal lives and responsibilities that draw on their emotional bandwidth. Because they have powerful influence, this means they have to be conscious of how their own emotional quality impacts those they lead. Practicing emotional leadership, however, is a tough charge - and an uncommon one.

In this episode, Mickey and Robin join Emma Rose to share what they've learned from working with senior executives around the world (and from leading organizations themselves) about why it matters to develop emotional leadership, and how to do it.

Jan 24, 202455:10
Uncommon Advice for Achieving Your Goals

Uncommon Advice for Achieving Your Goals

A new year brings opportunities for reflecting on our hopes and intentions for the year ahead, both personally and professionally. In organizational life, we set strategic plans and priorities, schedule milestones and deadlines, and put together development plans for ourselves and others. Most know that no matter how great the plan, we often get derailed as circumstances inevitably shift.

So how can we align our intentions with reality? And how can we care for that alignment throughout the year so that our efforts lead to successes worth celebrating? Whether you have goals for yourselves or for those you lead, we have some uncommon advice to help you launch a year of valuable achievement.

Jan 10, 202448:31
Influencing Without Authority
Nov 08, 202301:01:31
Leadership Influence
Nov 01, 202343:48
Raising & Resolving Issues

Raising & Resolving Issues

A challenging part of work (and life) is addressing the disappointments and challenges that come up in our relationships with others. It could be performance or collaboration issues, delivering disappointing news or feedback, or anything else that's difficult or uncomfortable to bring into conversation.

Being able to step into these conversations emotionally grounded, with a firm sense of purpose, and an openness to listening to and learning from the other person is a highly valuable skillset, and one worth cultivating.


Mickey and Robin join Emma Rose to share what makes this so hard, and the key principles that can reliably help you engage with these challenges in ways that lead to stronger relationships and surprising results.

Oct 18, 202357:22
Why leaders should care about BELONGING

Why leaders should care about BELONGING

Belonging is the B in DEIJB, one of the initials less understood or talked about, though not any less important. In fact, some consider belonging to be the outcome or indicator that diversity, equity, and inclusion are being addressed successfully.

What has us feel like we belong? What value does that experience afford us? As individuals and as a collective. Why should leaders and organizations care about belonging, and how does it help the bottom line?

Emma Rose is joined by Robin Anselmi and Michelle Wonsley to talk about belonging – what it means, what it looks like, and how we get there.

Oct 04, 202301:01:40
Feedback and Performance Reviews
Sep 06, 202348:12
Getting Unstuck: Turn dead ends into opportunities
Aug 24, 202357:26
Credibility: Foundations of Trust & Influence
Jul 13, 202358:20
Power, Pt. 3: Purposeful use of power

Power, Pt. 3: Purposeful use of power

Practicing Inclusive Leadership - leadership that inspires inclusivity and causes an experience of belonging - is not just soft and emotional work. It is a rigorous commitment that will naturally result in confronts, difficult conversations, and hard decisions. Inclusive Leadership is a call to cause both belonging and disruption, and doing so valuably requires understanding what it means to use power purposefully.

In this episode, Robin and Michelle join Emma Rose in our third conversation digging into power and power dynamics in leadership and organizational life.

Jun 28, 202356:22
Leading Change

Leading Change

Emma Rose is joined by guest Lisa Horwitz, who plays a critical role in the digital transformation of a large national healthcare company. Over the past few years, her background in user experience design has helped her support the adoption of new technology across their clinics nationwide, and she’s approached it as a research project with a focus on how to successfully guide behavior change.

Lisa's experience is full of lessons for leaders at all levels looking to influence and support successful change initiatives. Her story highlights the importance of curiosity and a commitment to listening, staying connected to the people who are necessary to the execution and sustainability of the new behaviors and processes you want to see.


Jun 07, 202301:03:22
Growth & Development
May 24, 202301:00:58
Power, Part 2: Types of Power
Apr 26, 202344:16
Essentiality: An Undervalued Leadership Skill

Essentiality: An Undervalued Leadership Skill

Essentiality is a powerful skill that helps you be clear, with yourself and with others, about what is most important. When you practice getting down to the very essence of what you need others to hear from you, or what others need you to hear, that is an act of valuable communication and an act of care.

Communication - the quality of conversation we hold ourselves to and our sense of timing - is an absolutely critical piece of leading and working in a way that drives value and vitality. Getting clear on what is most important to bring to a conversation and what is most important to listen for helps improve efficiency, yes, but also builds trust, connection, and accountability.

Roger Henderson joins Mickey and Emma Rose to discuss why essentiality matters and how to practice it.


Apr 12, 202359:20
Power & its impact on leadership, inclusion & value
Mar 29, 202301:02:11
Engagement in Decline
Mar 15, 202357:30
Love & Leadership Event Teaser
Mar 14, 202314:46
Choice: The victory of commitment over compliance
Mar 01, 202357:10
Decision Making

Decision Making

Decision making is a critical part of moving projects forward and leading success for any team or organization. While there are numerous frameworks, processes, and methods to pick from, the best method is the one that gets you to have the conversations you need to have. The conversations ARE the work of decision making, and it's through those conversations you generate alignment, increase shared understanding, create clarity around roles and contributions, and ultimately build cultures of trust and belonging. 

In this episode, Robin Anselmi and Patrick Kennedy join Emma Rose to share what they've learned from leading, participating in, and supporting the work of decision making.

Feb 15, 202347:53
Design Your Time: Put Purpose Before Method
Feb 01, 202359:05
Curiosity & Leadership with Dr. Debra Clary
Jan 18, 202301:02:48
A Recession of Connection?

A Recession of Connection?

As leaders and businesses prepare for 2023, "recession" is on everyone's minds. It's a responsibility of leadership to consider what pressures and challenges may be on the road ahead. Holding the reality of uncertainty along with a hopeful vision for the future is a skill, and one that can be compromised if we allow fear to dominate. 

Fear has a tendency to cause retraction – tightening of budgets, cuts of staff, yes, but also more generally in the human experience we do tend to pull away from others. Whether economic pressures worsen next year or not, what if the more imminent threat to our organizations is actually a recession of connection?

Dec 21, 202201:00:11
Love & Leadership
Dec 07, 202255:38
The Art of Adjustment
Sep 28, 202259:26
Collaborating through Stress, Uncertainty & Complex Challenges

Collaborating through Stress, Uncertainty & Complex Challenges

Most organizations in the world are experiencing dynamic change and facing uncertain futures. At the same time, their people are stressed, overwhelmed, and facing dynamic change and uncertainty themselves. Businesses face challenges of increasing complexity, which require high degrees of connection and collaboration to successfully navigate.

Stress and uncertainty generally make human beings contract and pull away from connection, which can compromise collaborative efforts. In this episode, Kell Delaney joins Robin and Emma Rose to discuss the ways teams and leaders can move through these challenges and make progress on their important goals, leaning into connection and community for greater resilience and collective intelligence.

Sep 14, 202254:59
DEIJB: What does it mean?
Aug 31, 202252:24
Sponsoring Responsible Autonomy
Aug 17, 202259:53
What is Culture?

What is Culture?

It’s not uncommon today for leaders and employees to place significant importance on workplace culture. Culture and work environment is a major deciding factor for job hunters, hiring managers are tasked with assessing “culture fit” when hunting for talent, and increasingly caring for culture is considered a strategic imperative for business success. This word gets used so often and is weighted so heavily in the working world today, we thought it wise to take a pause and ask… what is culture? Robin and Conversant colleague Katie Mingo join Emma Rose for that conversation, having worked with many leaders and organizations on projects relating to culture and culture change, and the role of leadership in cultivating workplace culture. 

Jul 27, 202256:17
Inclusive Leadership Design

Inclusive Leadership Design

Diversity, Equity & Inclusion has made its way into the priorities and public commitments of countless organizations across the US and globally, with more and more companies creating jobs and initiatives dedicated to the challenge. While this may show up as progress on paper, the reality is that most of those efforts have failed to make a meaningful impact.

As the world continues to learn what works and what doesn’t with regard to DEIJ, Conversant is evolving into its own perspective and approach, which we are calling Inclusive Leadership Design. The word “evolve” is purposeful, as this is an ongoing process that we are engaging our own organization in. For this episode, we invite you into that conversation – what is Inclusive Leadership Design? How can we make DEI efforts more impactful? Who do we need to be, as leaders, to cause the change we want to see?

Jul 13, 202258:56